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S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II

Picard resists psychological interrogation

In a Cardassian interrogation room, Gul Madred escalates his psychological manipulation of Picard after a brief legal victory. Picard, blindfolded and restrained, invokes Federation-Cardassian legal protocols to force Madred to remove his blindfold—a small but critical tactical win. Madred then probes Picard about Starfleet interrogation methods, only to pivot to a deceptively academic discussion about Cardassian archaeology, revealing his dual tactics: exploiting Picard’s intellectual pride while probing for Starfleet vulnerabilities. When Picard counters with moral critiques of Cardassian militarism, Madred retaliates by stripping him of his jumpsuit, leaving him naked and vulnerable, and demonstrating a pain-inducing device implanted in Picard’s chest. The exchange underscores the psychological warfare at play, with Madred testing Picard’s resilience while Picard strategically deflects and searches for Madred’s weaknesses. The scene ends with Picard’s physical and psychological torment escalating, setting up further resistance and the revelation of the Cardassians’ true intentions regarding Minos Korva.

Plot Beats

The narrative micro-steps within this event

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Picard, recently captured and interrogated, demands to see a neutral representative, as is his right under Federation-Cardassian law. Madred complies by removing Picard's blindfold and states a message has been sent to the nearest neutral planet.

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Madred circles Picard, noting his physical state and probing about the use of drugs and neuro-inhibitors during interrogation. Picard deflects, claiming ignorance of information that would be useful to the Cardassians.

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Who Was There

Characters present in this moment

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Madred
Gul
primary

Coldly calculating with flashes of defensive irritation when Picard challenges Cardassian militarism, masking a deeper, unspoken vulnerability tied to his role as both interrogator and father.

Gul Madred dominates the interrogation with calculated precision, beginning with a feigned concession to Federation legal protocols by removing Picard’s blindfold. He then employs a psychological tactic of academic discussion about Cardassian archaeology, lulling Picard into a false sense of intellectual engagement before abruptly shifting to brutal physical and psychological torment. Madred strips Picard of his jumpsuit, leaving him naked and vulnerable, and demonstrates the pain-inducing device implanted in his chest, escalating the torture with cold detachment. His movements are methodical, his tone shifting between conversational and menacing, as he tests Picard’s resilience while probing for Starfleet secrets.

Goals in this moment
  • Break Picard’s psychological resistance to extract Starfleet intelligence on Minos Korva
  • Dehumanize Picard by stripping him of his rank, uniform, and dignity to erode his defiance
Active beliefs
  • Cardassian survival depends on military dominance and secrecy, justifying extreme measures
  • Picard’s intellectual pride and moral convictions are exploitable weaknesses
Character traits
Psychologically manipulative Sadistic yet methodical Defensively reactive to moral critiques Emotionally detached with calculated cruelty Tactically adaptive (shifts from academic discussion to torture) Power-assertive (stripping Picard of dignity and rank)
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Supporting 1

Emotionally neutral, operating as functionaries in a system of control. Their lack of reaction to Picard’s pain or defiance reinforces the oppressive atmosphere of the interrogation room.

The two unnamed Cardassian Guards serve as silent enforcers, executing Madred’s orders with mechanical precision. They escort Picard into the room, restrain him with manacles, and later re-enter to secure him to the ceiling bar or provide a robe. Their presence reinforces the institutional brutality of the interrogation, acting as extensions of Madred’s will without question or hesitation. Their physical dominance and detachment underscore the dehumanizing environment Picard is forced to endure.

Goals in this moment
  • Ensure Picard’s compliance with Madred’s commands through physical restraint
  • Maintain the illusion of absolute Cardassian authority in the room
Active beliefs
  • Their role is to enforce order and extract information, regardless of moral considerations
  • Picard’s suffering is justified by the greater needs of the Cardassian Union
Character traits
Unquestioningly obedient Physically dominant (manhandling Picard without hesitation) Detached and professional (treating Picard as an object, not a person) Routine in their cruelty (no visible reaction to Picard’s suffering)
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Jil Orra

Jil Orra is not physically present in this event, but her indirect influence is felt through Madred’s rare moments of …

Worf

Worf is mentioned indirectly through Riker’s voice-over log, which reveals the failed rescue attempt in the Lyshan system. His absence …

William Riker

Data is not physically present in this event, but his absence is implied through the broader context of the Enterprise …

Objects Involved

Significant items in this scene

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Cardassian Interrogation Robe

The interrogation robe is a hollow gesture of dignity, provided to Picard after he is stripped naked and suspended. Madred offers it as a false reprieve, a way to lull Picard into a sense of temporary relief before resuming the torture. The robe’s coarse fabric and loose fit underscore Picard’s vulnerability, serving as a stark contrast to the Starfleet uniform he was forced to surrender. Its presence is a cruel reminder of Madred’s control over Picard’s body and environment, reinforcing the psychological warfare at play.

Before: Folded and held by the Cardassian Guards, awaiting …
After: Drape over Picard’s shoulders after he is removed …
Before: Folded and held by the Cardassian Guards, awaiting Madred’s command to be given to Picard. The fabric is plain and utilitarian, devoid of any comfort or symbolism.
After: Drape over Picard’s shoulders after he is removed from the ceiling bar, providing minimal coverage but no real comfort. The robe is a temporary respite, a psychological tool to lower Picard’s guard before the next phase of the interrogation.
Interrogation Room Arc Lamp

The light fixture with its four (or five, as Madred claims) exposed bulbs is a key psychological tool in Madred’s interrogation. The discrepancy in the number of lights becomes a battleground for Picard’s perception and resistance. Madred uses the fixture to disorient Picard, forcing him to question his own senses and reinforcing the Cardassians’ control over his reality. The harsh, unrelenting glow of the lights mirrors the oppressive atmosphere of the interrogation room, serving as both a literal and metaphorical source of torment. The fixture’s role in the scene underscores the Cardassians’ manipulation of perception as a means of breaking Picard’s will.

Before: Mounted on the wall, all four lights burning …
After: The fixture remains unchanged, but its symbolic role …
Before: Mounted on the wall, all four lights burning steadily. The fixture is a constant presence in the room, casting a clinical, unnatural glow over the interrogation.
After: The fixture remains unchanged, but its symbolic role is amplified as Madred uses it to challenge Picard’s perception. The lights continue to burn, a reminder of the Cardassians’ control over Picard’s environment and mind.
Cardassian Interrogation Ceiling Restraint Mechanism

The ceiling restraint bar is a brutal instrument of physical domination, used to suspend Picard with his arms stretched overhead. The Guards secure his manacled wrists to the bar, leaving him helpless and exposed. The bar’s unyielding metal and the strain it places on Picard’s body serve as a constant reminder of his powerlessness. Its use escalates the interrogation from verbal sparring to outright torture, reinforcing Madred’s absolute control over the situation. The bar’s presence looms over Picard, both literally and symbolically, as a testament to the Cardassians’ willingness to inflict suffering.

Before: Mounted securely to the ceiling, awaiting Picard’s restraint. …
After: Picard’s wrists are secured to the bar, leaving …
Before: Mounted securely to the ceiling, awaiting Picard’s restraint. The metal is cold and unyielding, a silent threat in the interrogation room.
After: Picard’s wrists are secured to the bar, leaving him suspended and unable to move. The bar becomes a focal point of his torment, a physical manifestation of Madred’s dominance.
Cardassian Pain-Induction Implant (Picard's Chest Implant)

The pain-inducing device implanted in Picard’s chest is the most visceral tool of Madred’s torture, designed to inflict excruciating agony at the press of a button. Madred demonstrates its function with clinical detachment, activating it to prove its effectiveness and break Picard’s resistance. The device is a stark reminder of the Cardassians’ technological brutality and their willingness to violate Picard’s body to extract information. Its activation marks a turning point in the interrogation, escalating from psychological manipulation to physical torment and signaling Madred’s growing frustration with Picard’s defiance.

Before: Dormant but active within Picard’s chest, a hidden …
After: Fully activated, sending waves of pain through Picard’s …
Before: Dormant but active within Picard’s chest, a hidden threat that he is unaware of until Madred reveals its existence. The small red scar on his chest is the only visible sign of its presence.
After: Fully activated, sending waves of pain through Picard’s body. The device remains a constant, invisible threat, ready to be triggered again at Madred’s discretion. Its use leaves Picard gasping and exhausted, a clear indication of Madred’s escalating tactics.
Gul Madred's Interrogation Control PADD

Gul Madred’s PADD is the central tool of his psychological and physical torture of Picard. He uses it to remotely unlock Picard’s manacles, demonstrating a false gesture of goodwill before escalating the interrogation. Later, he employs it to activate the pain-inducing device implanted in Picard’s chest, inflicting waves of agony with cold precision. The PADD symbolizes Madred’s technological advantage and his ability to control Picard’s suffering at a distance, reinforcing the Cardassians’ dehumanizing approach. Its sleek design contrasts with the brutality of its function, serving as both a administrative device and a weapon.

Before: Resting on Madred’s desk, fully charged and ready …
After: Clutched in Madred’s hand after activating the pain …
Before: Resting on Madred’s desk, fully charged and ready for use. The screen displays Cardassian script, indicating prior entries related to Picard’s interrogation.
After: Clutched in Madred’s hand after activating the pain device, its screen glowing with the command inputs used to torment Picard. The PADD remains a constant threat, symbolizing Madred’s ongoing control over the situation.
Gul Madred's Wrist Manacles

The wrist manacles are a brutal symbol of Picard’s captivity, cutting deeply into his skin and leaving visible bruises. Madred removes them temporarily as part of his psychological manipulation, offering a false sense of relief before reapplying them with even greater force. The manacles serve as both a physical restraint and a psychological reminder of Picard’s powerlessness. Their reapplication after the academic discussion signals Madred’s shift from subtle manipulation to outright domination, stripping Picard of any remaining autonomy.

Before: Secured tightly around Picard’s wrists, digging into his …
After: Reattached to Picard’s wrists with increased pressure, now …
Before: Secured tightly around Picard’s wrists, digging into his skin and restricting his movement. The metal is cold and unyielding, reinforcing the oppressive atmosphere of the interrogation room.
After: Reattached to Picard’s wrists with increased pressure, now secured to the ceiling bar, leaving him suspended and completely vulnerable. The manacles are a constant, inescapable presence, symbolizing Madred’s control.
Picard's Blindfold

The blindfold is a critical psychological tool in Madred’s arsenal, used to disorient and deprive Picard of sensory input. When Picard invokes Federation-Cardassian legal protocols, Madred removes it as a tactical concession, exposing Picard to the harsh interrogation room lights and forcing him to adjust. The blindfold’s removal is a small but significant victory for Picard, as it restores a measure of his dignity and allows him to engage Madred on a more equal footing—at least temporarily. Its presence or absence becomes a metaphor for Picard’s agency and resistance in the face of Madred’s control.

Before: Securely fastened over Picard’s eyes, blocking all visual …
After: Discarded on Madred’s desk or floor, no longer …
Before: Securely fastened over Picard’s eyes, blocking all visual input and heightening his sense of vulnerability. The fabric is damp with sweat, indicating prolonged use.
After: Discarded on Madred’s desk or floor, no longer needed as Madred shifts from sensory deprivation to direct psychological and physical torment. Its removal marks a turning point in the interrogation.

Location Details

Places and their significance in this event

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Gul Madred's Interrogation Room

The interrogation room is the primary battleground for the psychological and physical warfare between Madred and Picard. Its stark, utilitarian design—featuring Madred’s desk, the restraint chair, the ceiling bar, and the light fixture—creates an oppressive atmosphere that amplifies Picard’s vulnerability. The room’s echoing acoustics and harsh lighting strip away any sense of comfort or humanity, reinforcing the Cardassians’ dehumanizing approach. The space is carefully controlled, with every element serving a purpose in Madred’s interrogation tactics. The door at the far end symbolizes Picard’s isolation, while the absence of windows or natural light underscores the artificial, constructed nature of his torment.

Atmosphere Oppressively clinical, with a tension-filled silence broken only by the echo of footsteps and Picard’s …
Function Battleground for psychological and physical torture, designed to isolate and break Picard’s resistance.
Symbolism Represents the Cardassians’ institutional brutality and their ability to strip Picard of his identity and …
Access Restricted to Madred, the Guards, and Picard. The heavy door ensures no outside interference, and …
Harsh, unnatural lighting from exposed bulbs in the fixture Echoing acoustics that amplify the sound of footsteps and restraints Stark metal furniture (desk, chair, ceiling bar) with no soft edges or comforts Stale, recycled air with a faint metallic scent No windows or natural light, creating a sense of timelessness and isolation

Organizations Involved

Institutional presence and influence

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Starfleet

Starfleet is represented indirectly in this event through Picard’s defiance, his invocation of Federation-Cardassian legal protocols, and the moral framework he upholds despite the torture. Picard’s resistance is a direct challenge to the Cardassians’ violations of the Selonis Convention and the Federation’s principles of humane treatment. His refusal to cooperate, even under extreme duress, reflects Starfleet’s commitment to protecting its secrets and upholding its values. The organization’s influence is also felt through the broader narrative context, as Riker and Worf’s failed rescue attempt underscores the crew’s determination to adhere to Starfleet’s protocols and find a way to intervene.

Representation Through Picard’s actions and dialogue, which embody Starfleet’s moral and ethical standards. The organization is …
Power Dynamics Operating from a position of moral and legal authority, but currently powerless to intervene directly …
Impact Starfleet’s presence in this event is primarily symbolic, embodied in Picard’s defiance and the crew’s …
Internal Dynamics The tension between operational constraints (e.g., the failed rescue mission) and moral obligations (e.g., protecting …
Protect Starfleet’s intelligence on Minos Korva and theta-band expertise to prevent a Cardassian invasion Uphold the principles of the Federation and the Selonis Convention, even in the face of Cardassian violations Moral and ethical frameworks (e.g., Picard’s refusal to cooperate, invocation of legal protocols) Operational discipline (e.g., Riker and Worf’s adherence to mission protocols despite personal concerns) Diplomatic and strategic planning (e.g., efforts to locate Picard and devise a rescue plan)
Cardassian Union

The Cardassian Union is the overarching political and military entity that sanctions Madred’s interrogation of Picard. Its influence is felt in the broader context of the Cardassian threat to Minos Korva and the Union’s willingness to use extreme measures to achieve its strategic objectives. The Union’s tactics—including the capture of Federation personnel, the use of torture, and the staging of invasions—reflect its aggressive posture toward the Federation. Madred’s actions in this scene are a microcosm of the Union’s broader strategy, which prioritizes military dominance and the exploitation of perceived weaknesses in Federation defenses.

Representation Through Gul Madred’s role as an intelligence officer and the Guards’ enforcement of his commands. …
Power Dynamics Exercising dominance over Picard and the Federation through military and intelligence operations. The Cardassian Union …
Impact The Cardassian Union’s actions in this event reinforce its reputation as an aggressive and unyielding …
Internal Dynamics The Union’s internal dynamics are characterized by a sense of urgency and desperation, driven by …
Extract critical intelligence on Minos Korva’s defenses to facilitate a successful invasion Demonstrate the Cardassian Union’s willingness to use extreme measures to achieve its objectives, deterring future Federation interference Military and intelligence operations (e.g., capture of Picard, staging of invasions) Psychological and physical torture (e.g., Madred’s interrogation tactics) Diplomatic deception (e.g., false claims of neutrality, violation of treaties) Technological superiority (e.g., pain-inducing devices, advanced interrogation tools)
Cardassian Obsidian Order

The Cardassian Obsidian Order is the driving force behind Picard’s interrogation, represented through Gul Madred’s actions and the Guards’ enforcement of his commands. The organization’s tactics—psychological manipulation, physical torture, and the use of advanced technology like the pain-inducing device—reflect its ruthless approach to extracting information. Madred’s methods, including the violation of Federation-Cardassian treaties and the dehumanization of Picard, embody the Obsidian Order’s willingness to operate outside moral or legal constraints to achieve its goals. The organization’s presence is felt in every aspect of the interrogation, from the design of the room to the use of the PADD and the light fixture as tools of control.

Representation Through Gul Madred’s direct actions as an interrogator and the Guards’ enforcement of his commands. …
Power Dynamics Exercising absolute authority over Picard, with no checks or balances. The Obsidian Order operates with …
Impact The Obsidian Order’s actions in this scene reinforce its reputation as a ruthless and unyielding …
Internal Dynamics Madred’s internal conflict between his role as an interrogator and his personal humanity (hinted at …
Extract Starfleet intelligence on Minos Korva’s defense strategy to facilitate a Cardassian invasion Break Picard’s psychological resistance to demonstrate the Obsidian Order’s dominance and deter future Federation interference Psychological manipulation (e.g., academic discussions, sensory deprivation, gaslighting) Physical torture (e.g., pain-inducing device, restraints, suspension) Technological superiority (e.g., PADD-controlled implants, advanced interrogation tools) Institutional intimidation (e.g., violation of treaties, dehumanization of the prisoner)

Narrative Connections

How this event relates to others in the story

What led here 12
Causal

"Madred and Picard discuss Cardassian archaeology and militarism. Picard attempts to steer the conversation toward his release, but Madred pivots back to the Federation's defense strategy for Minos Korva, revealing the true focus of the interrogation."

Picard’s systematic dehumanization begins
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Causal

"Madred and Picard discuss Cardassian archaeology and militarism. Picard attempts to steer the conversation toward his release, but Madred pivots back to the Federation's defense strategy for Minos Korva, revealing the true focus of the interrogation."

Picard resists pain induction torture
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Causal

"Madred and Picard discuss Cardassian archaeology and militarism. Picard attempts to steer the conversation toward his release, but Madred pivots back to the Federation's defense strategy for Minos Korva, revealing the true focus of the interrogation."

Madred’s psychological interrogation escalates
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Escalation

"After suspending Picard, Madred escalates the torment by stripping Picard of his jumpsuit, further dehumanizing him. This action emphasizes Madred's control and Picard's vulnerability."

Picard’s systematic dehumanization begins
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Escalation

"After suspending Picard, Madred escalates the torment by stripping Picard of his jumpsuit, further dehumanizing him. This action emphasizes Madred's control and Picard's vulnerability."

Picard resists pain induction torture
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Escalation

"After suspending Picard, Madred escalates the torment by stripping Picard of his jumpsuit, further dehumanizing him. This action emphasizes Madred's control and Picard's vulnerability."

Madred’s psychological interrogation escalates
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
NARRATIVELY_FOLLOWS

"Picard demands a neutral representative, and Madred complies by removing his blindfold, setting the stage for the next phase of the interrogation by questioning Picard's state."

Picard’s systematic dehumanization begins
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
NARRATIVELY_FOLLOWS

"Picard demands a neutral representative, and Madred complies by removing his blindfold, setting the stage for the next phase of the interrogation by questioning Picard's state."

Picard resists pain induction torture
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
NARRATIVELY_FOLLOWS

"Picard demands a neutral representative, and Madred complies by removing his blindfold, setting the stage for the next phase of the interrogation by questioning Picard's state."

Madred’s psychological interrogation escalates
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Symbolic Parallel medium

"Madred tortures Picard who insists there are four lights. Madred expresses disbelief as the scene cuts to Riker logging the Enterprise's search for Picard. Picard's resistance is juxtaposed with the actions of the Enterprise crew to protect Picard."

Madred’s psychological interrogation escalates
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Symbolic Parallel medium

"Madred tortures Picard who insists there are four lights. Madred expresses disbelief as the scene cuts to Riker logging the Enterprise's search for Picard. Picard's resistance is juxtaposed with the actions of the Enterprise crew to protect Picard."

Picard’s systematic dehumanization begins
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Symbolic Parallel medium

"Madred tortures Picard who insists there are four lights. Madred expresses disbelief as the scene cuts to Riker logging the Enterprise's search for Picard. Picard's resistance is juxtaposed with the actions of the Enterprise crew to protect Picard."

Picard resists pain induction torture
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
What this causes 12
Causal

"Madred and Picard discuss Cardassian archaeology and militarism. Picard attempts to steer the conversation toward his release, but Madred pivots back to the Federation's defense strategy for Minos Korva, revealing the true focus of the interrogation."

Madred’s psychological interrogation escalates
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Causal

"Madred and Picard discuss Cardassian archaeology and militarism. Picard attempts to steer the conversation toward his release, but Madred pivots back to the Federation's defense strategy for Minos Korva, revealing the true focus of the interrogation."

Picard’s systematic dehumanization begins
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Causal

"Madred and Picard discuss Cardassian archaeology and militarism. Picard attempts to steer the conversation toward his release, but Madred pivots back to the Federation's defense strategy for Minos Korva, revealing the true focus of the interrogation."

Picard resists pain induction torture
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Escalation

"After suspending Picard, Madred escalates the torment by stripping Picard of his jumpsuit, further dehumanizing him. This action emphasizes Madred's control and Picard's vulnerability."

Madred’s psychological interrogation escalates
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Escalation

"After suspending Picard, Madred escalates the torment by stripping Picard of his jumpsuit, further dehumanizing him. This action emphasizes Madred's control and Picard's vulnerability."

Picard’s systematic dehumanization begins
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Escalation

"After suspending Picard, Madred escalates the torment by stripping Picard of his jumpsuit, further dehumanizing him. This action emphasizes Madred's control and Picard's vulnerability."

Picard resists pain induction torture
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
NARRATIVELY_FOLLOWS

"Picard demands a neutral representative, and Madred complies by removing his blindfold, setting the stage for the next phase of the interrogation by questioning Picard's state."

Madred’s psychological interrogation escalates
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
NARRATIVELY_FOLLOWS

"Picard demands a neutral representative, and Madred complies by removing his blindfold, setting the stage for the next phase of the interrogation by questioning Picard's state."

Picard’s systematic dehumanization begins
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
NARRATIVELY_FOLLOWS

"Picard demands a neutral representative, and Madred complies by removing his blindfold, setting the stage for the next phase of the interrogation by questioning Picard's state."

Picard resists pain induction torture
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Symbolic Parallel medium

"Madred tortures Picard who insists there are four lights. Madred expresses disbelief as the scene cuts to Riker logging the Enterprise's search for Picard. Picard's resistance is juxtaposed with the actions of the Enterprise crew to protect Picard."

Madred’s psychological interrogation escalates
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Symbolic Parallel medium

"Madred tortures Picard who insists there are four lights. Madred expresses disbelief as the scene cuts to Riker logging the Enterprise's search for Picard. Picard's resistance is juxtaposed with the actions of the Enterprise crew to protect Picard."

Picard’s systematic dehumanization begins
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II
Symbolic Parallel medium

"Madred tortures Picard who insists there are four lights. Madred expresses disbelief as the scene cuts to Riker logging the Enterprise's search for Picard. Picard's resistance is juxtaposed with the actions of the Enterprise crew to protect Picard."

Picard resists pain induction torture
S6E11 · Chain of Command, Part II

Key Dialogue

"PICARD: I demand to see a neutral representative... as required by the Federation-Cardassian peace treaty."
"MADRED: I dislike using drugs... but it is the most efficient means of getting information. Unless, of course, you were given a neuro-inhibitor... enabling you to withhold it."
"PICARD: That war cost you hundreds of thousands of lives... depleted your food supplies... left your population weakened and miserable... and yet you risk war again."
"MADRED: From this point on, you will enjoy no privileges of rank... no privileges of person. From now on, I will refer to you only as human. You have no other identity."
"MADRED: I asked you... how many lights you see there."
"PICARD: There are four lights."
"MADRED: Strange... I see five."